[ARTICLE]OS3.01 released for Roland G-70

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/images/stories/folder1/g-70os3.01.Roland has surprisingly released an OS update for Roland G-70. The new OS update is labeled OS3.01 The user club administration is now investigating the content of the latest OS release and there will be more detailed information about the update as soon as possible.

If you decide to go forward with updating your G-70 to OS3.01 the user club administration strongly recommend you to do a backup of both internal and external memory before you proceed!

Normally OS updates are not available for download from the roland-arranger.com website. However, we have cho. . .

[admin]

Thanks to Hans Peter Isenberg to break the news

[admin]

Will someone please translate the content of the help files from German to English?

CONTENT OF HELP FILE:

G-70 Update auf die Version 3

Was aendert sich gegenueber den Versionen 1 und 2?

1. Neue Struktur der One Touch Settings (OTS) zur Verwaltung der neuen EQs und des MFX-Typs. Die OTS sind jetzt nicht mehr an eine bestimmte Speicheradresse gekoppelt, sondern gehoeren jetzt zu dem jeweiligen Style. Dadurch hat sich das Format geaendert, so dass fuer die Version 1 oder 2 erstellte OTS mit der Version 3 nicht mehr nutzbar sind. Der Vorteil ist nun, dass beim Kopieren oder Verschieben von Styles die zugehoerigen OTS mit umziehen bzw. kopiert werden.
2. Neue Equalizer fuer die Realtime Parts, Styles und Song Parts.
3. Auf den neuen EQs basierend wurden alle 299 vorinstallierten Styles aufpoliert und die Lautstaerkeverhaeltnisse optimiert.

4. Verbesserung der musikalischen Umsetzung von Tonfolgen der einzelnen Instrumente innerhalb des Arrangers, so dass die Styles noch natuerlicher klingen Ueber den Update-Vorgang

- Fuer das Update muss mindestens 11MB freier Speicherplatz im internen G-70 Speicher frei sein. Um zu sehen, wieviel freier Speicher noch vorhanden ist, druecken Sie beim G-70 nacheinander die Taster [MENU] >[UTILITY] > [INFO], und sehen Sie bei "Free Space Internal Memory" nach. Falls Sie nicht genug Speicher haben, loeschen Sie z.B. einige MIDI-Files oder machen Sie ein Backup (siehe Anleitung) und loeschen Sie dann einige Ihrer Daten.
- Zum Updaten brauchen Sie ca 15 Minuten Zeit.
- Falls Ihr G-70 noch eine Version unter 2 hat, sollten Sie erst auf die Version 2.02 updaten.

[admin]

And here is the other file:

G-70 System & Music Data Update (die User-Einstellungen werden nicht geloescht)

Zur Aktualisierung wird ein Computer mit Windows ME, Windows 2000 oder Windows XP benoetigt.

WICHTIG:
========

Wenn von Versionen unter 3 upgedatet wird:
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Bei der Version 3 werden die OTS (One Touch Settings) geloescht. Das ist
nicht zu vermeiden. Auch ein Backup der OTS kann mit der Version 3 nicht
benutzt werden. Der Grund dafuer ist folgender:
Vor der Version 3 wurden die One Touches an eine Speicheradresse gekoppelt,
ab der Version 3 gehoeren diese fest zu einem Style und haben ein anderes Format.
Alle anderen User-Einstellungen bleiben in der Regel erhalten. Zur Sicherheit
sollten Sie dennoch ein Backup machen, um bei eventuell auftretenden Stoerungen
eine Sicherheitskopie zu haben.

Wenn von der Version 3.00 upgedatet wird:
-----------------------------------------
Da die One Touch Settings (OTS) seit Version 3 Bestandteil der Styles sind,
bleiben diese unveraendert.



Achtung:
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Die Nutzung der beigefuegten Daten erfolgt auf eigenes Risiko.
Die Firma ROLAND Elektronische Musikinstrumente HmbH ist in keinerlei
Hinsicht fuer eventuelle Datenverluste, Fehlfunktionen oder Schaeden,
die durch Einsatz der entsprechenden Dateien entstehen, verantwortlich
zu machen. Bitte beachten Sie diese beigefuegte Textdatei genauestens,
um den gewuenschten Erfolg beim Einsatz der Daten zu erzielen.

ROLAND
Elektronische Musikinstrumente
Handelsgesellschaft mbH
Oststrasse 96
22844 Norderstedt


-Laden der Aktualisierungsdaten in den G-70-
======================================================================

1.Verbinden Sie den G-70 per USB mit Ihrem Computer.

2.Falls eine Memory Card im Slot des G-70 steckt oder sich eine Diskette
  im Laufwerk befindet, entfernen Sie diese bitte jetzt.     

3.Druecken Sie nacheinander [MENU] > [USB DATA STORAGE] > [INTERNAL MEMORY].
  Sobald die USB-Verbindung hergestellt ist, zeigt das G-70 Display
  "CONNECTED" an.

4.Im Computer erscheint nun ein weiteres Wechsel-Laufwerk im Windows-
  Arbeitsplatz. Dieses Wechsel-Laufwerk (als Wechseldatentraeger dargestellt)
  ist der interne Flash-Speicher des G-70.
  Dieses Laufwerk wird im Folgenden als G-70-Wechsellaufwerk bezeichnet.

5.Oeffnen Sie nun den Ordner  “G70_Version3” auf Ihrer Computer-Festplatte.
  Selektieren Sie alle 4 der darin befindlichen Ordner.

6.Kopieren Sie die selektierten Ordner in das G-70-Wechsellaufwerk. Wenn
  Windows meckert, dass einige Daten und Ordner vorhanden sind, klicken
  Sie auf die Option "Ersetzen".

7.Wenn der Kopiervorgang beendet ist, trennen Sie die USB-Verbindung
  zunaechst an Ihrem Computer durch Klicken auf das USB-Symbol (gruener
  Pfeil) und "Laufwerk beenden".
  Bestaetigen Sie dann das Trennen der USB-Verbindung durch Klicken auf OK.
  (BITTE KEINESFALLS DAS USB-KABEL ENTFERNEN)

8.Tippen Sie auf die G-70 Schaltflaeche [DISCONNECT] und druecken Sie danach
  den Taster [EXIT].

9.Entfernen Sie nun das USB-Kabel zwischen Comuter und G-70 und schalten
  Sie den G-70 aus.


- Aktualisierung des G-70 auf die Version 3.0 -
==========================================================================

10. Halten Sie den Taster [DISK&MEDIA] fuer ca 15 Sekunden gedrueckt und
    schalten Sie dabei den G-70 ein, bis im Display die Anzeige
    “SYSTEM UPDATE” erscheint.

11. Druecken Sie nun den Taster USER PROGRAM [1]. Der G-70 aktualisiert
    nun den Speicher des Betriebssystems.
12. Nach vollendeter Aktualisierung erscheint im Display die Anzeige
    “Power Off and Power On again” . Schalten Sie nun den G-70 aus,
    warten Sie 5 Sekunden und schalten Sie den G-70 wieder ein.


- Aktualisierung der neuen Styles -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

13. Druecken Sie den Taster [STYLE] in der FINDER Sektion.



- Aktualisierung des G-70 mit dem neuen User Program Set (FACTORY SET)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

14. Druecken Sie nacheinander [MENU] > [UTILITY] > [FACTORY RESET] und
    dann [EXECUTE].

15. Mit Druecken des [EXIT]-Tasters erreichen Sie wieder das Haupt-Display.

Die Aktualisierung ist nun beendet.

[admin]

I tried myself to translate the content of the first help file. Can any German Speaking members please review the translation?

G-70 update to version 3

What has changed since version 1 and 2?

1.
New structure of the One Touch Settings (OTS) to use the new EQ's and MFX types? The OTS is no longer connected to a specific "Speicheradresse" [what is that?]. Instead the OTS are now connected to a style. Becuase of this change any OTS settings created on a version 1 OS or a version 2 OS will not function after updating to version 3.01. The advantage of the new OTS change is that OTS settings will be copied, when copying a style.

2.
New EQ for realtime parts, styles and song parts.

3.
All 299 internal ROM styles are based on the new EQ settings and volume settings have been adjusted.

4.
Improvement of tones...

Well, what is the news here? Isn't this excactly the same content as with the OS3.00? Can anyone comment on that?

[Ironhill]

Well, what is the news here? Isn't this excactly the same content as with the OS3.00? Can anyone comment on that?

Hi All,
because of removing V3.00 Roland Germany added the old V3-text again to inform users of versions 1 and 2. V3.01 contains 'only' bugfixes I heard. "Speicheradresse" means simple: "Memory address". In this case e.g. a fixed address  within the 'User Program Set' (UPS) area.
Regards
Hanspeter         

[reshmin]

I just updated to V3.01. No change in the loading screen but the MENU>UTILITY>INFO says 3.01-b009 2008 January 29.
Im not sure if this is a change ,but when i press the SET LIST menu, I see a notification in the top right corner of the screen saying from internal memory (not sure if this was there before).
As for the sounds maybe its my imagination, i think now the mid range for tones is clear... somehow all instruments seem distinct. Hope someone can confirm this.

Rgds
George

[Ironhill]

I just updated to V3.01. No change in the loading screen but the MENU>UTILITY>INFO says 3.01-b009 2008 January 29.
Im not sure if this is a change ,but when i press the SET LIST menu, I see a notification in the top right corner of the screen saying from internal memory (not sure if this was there before).
As for the sounds maybe its my imagination, i think now the mid range for tones is clear... somehow all instruments seem distinct. Hope someone can confirm this.
Rgds
George

Hi George,
as you see, the update don't find an interest. It's all OK with the G-70 OS. Roland did it right, it's not necessasry to spend any effort.       
Regards
Hanspeter         

[Diki]

I don't have my G70 here to update it right now.

Could someone test if, when you change from Pianostyle to Standard chord recognition while the ACC is playing, does it still cut off the ACC?

That's probably one of the biggest issues left, for me...

[gvenuti]

Hi Diki,

The problem is still present... No change on this front.

I was playng the New Metal style and notate another strange behavior of the G-70 OS (this was present in the version 3.00 too)
When I make a fill down from Main4 to Main3 or from Main3 to Main2, sometime the style introduce a scratch sound (like DJ noise that has nothing to do with the Metal genre) and this is not a regular behavior and often happen when the fill is triggered after the Beat 1. When I try to trigger the fill on Beat 4 the most of the time this sound normal like a normal metal fill, but from time to time the scratch reappair...

Tomorrow I will try to verify if perhaps with this update they have corrected some strange MIDI behavior when we connect the arranger with a Sequencer on PC... a very annoing problem that I have reported time ago...

Regards
Giovanni

[reshmin]

Hi Hans,

Yes, I guessed as much. Btw its surprising that Roland should release another OS update, is there any inside info on this?
Giovanni, did you find any change in the tone quality for styles?
Rgds
George

[Ironhill]

Hi George,
as far as I know, Roland has a central info-system where the international distributors can get their informations regarding bugfixes. But it's not usual to publish such infos. Some-times customers can get these by phone.
Regards
Hanspeter

[Diki]

Does the update include a new set of ROM styles, or is it an OS update only...?

One would think, if it doesn't replace the styles, that it should have NO difference on the 'sound' of the styles, yes?

OK, can you test a few other things..? Perhaps some E60/50 features got added.

Is there now an option for 'Fixed' velocity in the Key Touch page? (Great for the organ Tones)

Is there any way to re-task the V-Link buttons?

It seems inconceivable that Roland, after all this time (since the OS3 release) would release an update with only the slightest of changes (that no-one can find). I mean, ANY bug-fix is welcome, but the release of a new OS seems the PERFECT time to fix a couple of the niggling remaining clunkers, especially as trivial as they appear to be...

But, maybe this is just the first sign of a sleeping giant awakening, and Roland have decided to fix the main OS BEFORE they release a new G-series. After all, FAR better to beta-test it now (on us) than to release a new G-series as untested as the G70's OS was...

[admin]

I plan to update myself tonight. Any more comment from those of you, who already did the update?

[Bert]

I did the update, thanks for your quick action Soren, and everything works.
But until yet I did not find a difference with OS3.0.

[admin]

There are rumours floating around about this update. I will not comment on the rumours until I hear something officially from Roland...

It seems that the update is available only from the Greek and German JV websites. This is very strange and is BTW one of the sources to the rumours...

More information will follow, when Roland makes an official comment about the update.

[nielshs]

As for the sounds maybe its my imagination, i think now the mid range for tones is clear... somehow all instruments seem distinct. Hope someone can confirm this.

Hi

I noticed the same overall sound inprovement, but maybe im wrong? 

Niels

[admin]

I have just made the update. It went smoothly without any problems. Thanks Roland for making the update procedure so easy! If you have forgotten how to update the OS, please refer to the official update instruction from Roland. What you need to do the update is this:

OS3.01 update file (zip)
Update instruction (pdf)

Please backup all data from internal and external memory before proceeding with the update procedure! (just in case something goes wrong...).

Roland informs that the update fixes a bug in the harmonizer section of the instrument. And that's it...

However, several users have come forward since yesterday telling that the overall sound has improved after the update.

Roland has not confirmed this to be true, but I will however not reject this to be true (just my personal opinion). I don't know how modulized the software is. But if there has been developed core components, which have been used both in G-70 and in E-80, then an explanation could be that software modules from the E-80 have been integrated into the G-70 OS3.01 update... I know this is just a personal assumption, but it could be an explanation...?!

I am looking forward to hear from those of you, who have done the update. Can you hear any difference in the sound? Personally I can't hear any difference...

Users have asked why the update is not available from the rolandus.com  website or from the Roland Keyboard Club website. The explanation is that the update was never meant to be released officially. It was published by mistake on the German Roland JV website. Also the local Greek Roland distributor has made the update available from their website. As you know you can also download the update here at roland-arranger.com.

Therefore you should know that the update is not an official Roland update. It is an unofficially update, which was originally only intended to be used by the Germany Roland JV to test, whether a certain bug (reported by the German Roland JV) was fixed...

Said in plain English.... it was a mistake that the OS3.01 was released in public...

On these grounds I will point out that you should do the update at your own risk!

[Peter]

Hi Admin,

Users have asked why the update is not available from the rolandus.com  website or from the Roland Keyboard Club website. The explanation is that the update was never meant to be released officially. It was published by mistake on the German Roland JV website. Also the local Greek Roland distributor has made the update available from their website. As you know you can also download the update here at roland-arranger.com.

So there's gonne be another upgrade in the future?

Therefore you should know that the update is not an official Roland update. It is an unofficially update, which was originally only intended to be used by the Germany Roland JV to test, whether a certain bug (reported by the German Roland JV) was fixed...

So for one bug they make a new update, ... and all other problems?

I am looking forward to hear from those of you, who have done the update. Can you hear any difference in the sound? Personally I can't hear any difference...

I think the bass sound is better. But I'm playing for the moment on another set of speakers. So I'm not 100% true. For the rest I can't find/see/hear new stuff.

Greetings Peter

[admin]

So there's gonne be another upgrade in the future?

I don't know.

So for one bug they make a new update, ... and all other problems?

As far as I know there is only fixed one bug, but there might be solved more than one bug. You see, it is normal procedure to do a specific update solely to fix one bug, if that bug is considered severe. That bugfix would be released as a minor release, just like this one. The problem solved in 3.01 is regarding the harmonizer, which suddenly freezed, when a specific state occurs in the instrument.

I think the bass sound is better. But I'm playing for the moment on another set of speakers. So I'm not 100% true. For the rest I can't find/see/hear new stuff.

I am looking forward to hear more about your impressions. Please report more asap!

[admin]

Users have sent me emails and messages asking, why Roland has not made an official statement about this update. I will like to comment on that:

It is not unusual that a minor updates (e.g. X.01 -> X.02) are released without press released or other formal notifications. That happens all the time - not only with arrangers, but also with other product lines, and also with other manufacturers.

[admin]

User club member Niels Haugstrup, who has made a lot of G-70 demos, has made this recording after updating to OS3.01. Niels and I discuss, whether there is a change in the sound after updating to OS3.01... go listen for yourself. The recording is attached to this forum message.

[Ironhill]

I don't have the possibility to compare, but anyway, this song sound very, very good. Thank you for sharing, Niels.
Regards
Hanspeter

[nielshs]

Hi Hanspeter

Thanks.  The demo is not a "song" but only some improvisation.

Regards
Niels

[reshmin]

Neils,
Thanks for the demo but I dont hear much of a difference. I had used your "Love is blue UPG" to check the new OS, thats when I felt the change in the overall tone.
Even now when I play with the new OS I can hear a difference but its difficult to put in words what I feel. In short I like this better than the old setup & I will not be going back to 3.0
Diki I think you may find a small change in the Grand X ,why dont you try it out?
I find it very strange that Roland should go all the way in making an update after a year & half & say that it is to cover memory address problem & fix a harmonizer bug (these bugs were not noticed by our members here), I rather believe that this has to do with beta testing of new products.
Rgds
George