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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 19 Jun 2017 20:37 #6030

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I will do the latin.



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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 20 Jun 2017 00:52 #6031

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HI ,
I have done a fast run to al these e-a7 style's so far now.

First thing that i note is on my BK7m , that is like "'Van Halen's JUMP" all the OTS are using a lot of MFX and they all set to the level of 127 FULLL

Dikki note ! IT IS NOT THE PART VOLUME SET TO MAX 127 (al of theme are arround volume level 100) normal setting.

The issue are the MFX LEVEL'S are all full on 127.
same question as DIKKI but look at the MFX LEVEL'S ! IS THIS ON THE E-A7 the same???????????
check....style .American HR OTS-4 /tonePart Effects........MFX-on ....mfx settings
set=
MFX type 66:Ampsim
MFX edit Amp volume 127
Mic.level 127
LEVEL(totaal) 127 :sick:
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 20 Jun 2017 07:49 #6032

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AmericanHR...

On my BK-9, the UPR1 & UPR2 Part levels are 127 on ALL the OTS. Don't get the Style Parts confused with the Keyboard Part levels. The style OTS cannot override your Performance's Style Part levels (in the Mixer), but they can and do change your Keyboard Parts...

The 16BtPopRock1 & 2 are the same. Every UPR1&2 OTS, 127.

Most of the new Samba Bossa group new styles, OTS at 127. OTS4 of New Bossa has UPR1@127, UPR2@80.

But the OTS at 127 seems to be a thing with the E-A7 styles. NOT my BK-9 ROM OTS, though... Far more sensible OTS volumes. Admittedly, SOME go to 127, but far fewer.

But just about every E-A7 OTS I've tried, UPR1&2 are almost always at 127.

This is insane unless you have an expression pedal (and even that, you would hardly ever need full expression) :woohoo: :S

I used to say that, if you were using the MA or OTS and had decent technique (I do play piano, but primarily have played good plastic action 61's and 76's most of my career, plus organ, accordion, etc.) on the BK-9, back off the Balance knob to about 10 o'clock and things were about right. These E-A7 OTS, I dunno... 8-9 o'clock, and they still are a bit up there. I wonder if any new MA entries are the same?
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 20 Jun 2017 07:53 #6033

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Latin up in the Dropbox...

Thanks, Fran
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 20 Jun 2017 08:23 #6034

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OK, E-A7 owners... One more task (a lot easier than copying the styles) :evil:

How about copying the entire MA list (there is a select all function, I believe) and pasting into a new USB Performance List and sending it to me?

I will see if the BK-9 can read the E-A7 Performances, and see if there are any new ones... If it can, then the task gets harder, as the new MA entries will come up Style Not Found, and we will need the E-A7 owners to note which styles they use (so we can reconnect them with the ROM styles on our sticks)...

If you can send me this, please post here so more than one person doesn't duplicate the work.

Thanks.
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 20 Jun 2017 08:25 #6035

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Something kind of troubling me.... I read in the E-A7 manual that the MA List can (and does!) contain more entries than the E-A7's normal 100 entry List. I don't know how many, but it seems like an awfully retrograde step to go from a 999 entry List to a 100 entry List, and then rub your noses in it by allowing the factory ROM MA List to have more!

This is a step by Roland that MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL!

For starters, what the hell was WRONG with a 999 entry List? It works fine on my BK, I don't recall a single complaint ever about it, and for those that use MIDI to call up Performances like from an iPad doing a lyric program (seeing as Roland can't be bothered to allow us lyrics in style mode, unlike Korg and Yamaha :angry: ) a 999 song repertoire is much more practical than a 100 song repertoire (once you use up all 100 slots, you will have to manually change Performance Lists so the iPad/tablet can call up the correct Performance for a set of lyrics, which is utterly stupid!) for the working musician and even most home musicians.

This, I hate to say it, is why Roland is failing badly...

They can't leave well enough alone! They have no idea what is and isn't a good feature, and are as likely to mess up something that works as add something new that is great with every new arranger they make. There is no consistency, no continuity, no overall philosophy. they start from scratch every time, and throw out as much good as they put in.

I'll tell you one thing... Korg and Yamaha (especially Yamaha!) do NOT ever do this. And this is why every Yamaha owner looks forward to the next model. They KNOW it will be better, and NOTHING will be worse!

How can Roland keep doing this? Are they brain dead? Do they send the people that fail in every other Roland division to go work in the arranger gulag as a punishment?! We don't deserve this. We keep using their arrangers even when they mess them up! It's about time Roland started caring.

Or just stop making them. One of the two!
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 20 Jun 2017 20:15 #6040

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[/quote]Did you get my email, felipe? They did not arrive... .zip was empty.[/quote]

Sorry, I do not know what's going on that I'm so distracted ....
Now there is no mistake, I will put everything apart ....

kkk

Regrats
from Brazil
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 21 Jun 2017 23:25 #6048

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16/8 Beat styles added to the Dropbox.

Thanks to felipe...
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 01 Jul 2017 08:09 #6062

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Is there any progress being made with any of the other ethnic categories? Does anybody feel that any of them are potentially usable in other BK series arrangers?

We have another member asking for the Mahgrebi styles and Tunisian stuff, (in the list from 565 to 600 and from 565 to 582 and 592+ 595+ 596)
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 18 Jul 2017 21:25 #6101

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E-A7 Tunisian styles added to the Dropbox: www.dropbox.com/sh/3qfu5ydzfuhca7s/AAAJV...0BEnDEgu9GDpaIa?dl=0
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 27 Jul 2017 21:56 #6162

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felipepaz wrote:
I have both Bk-9 and EA-7,

Felipe, I wonder if you would try something out for us... We have already found that BK's and earlier Roland's CAN'T play some of the E-A7 ethnic style families, but they CAN play some of them (those Vietnamese ones, for instance).

If you have the time and patience, could you try auditioning the other ethnic E-A7 styles in the BK-9 that we haven't already had posted here, and if they DO work OK in the BK-9, send them to me to put up in the Dropbox?

That's a fair bit of work, I understand, but you are in a unique position of being able to play the style in both the E-A7 and the BK-9, and listen for anything seriously wrong, and only upload the ones that work well OOTB.

That would be seriously appreciated by our members here, and myself!

If you wanted to, you could jot down a quick note on each style that is 'close' but not 'exactly the same', and mention what is changed... It might be possible to create a USER Kit in the BK-9 to import an equivalent sound to a percussion instrument that is playing incorrectly, for instance.

I fully understand if you don't have the time to do this, it IS quite a bit of work. We would still appreciate you (and any other E-A7 owners) continuing to copy the Ethnic ROM styles (I believe we now have all the others, don't we?) and sending them to me for the sake of completion of the project. But the ability to compare to the original is something I think you are uniquely in a position to do (or does anyone else have BOTH an E-A7 and a BK series arranger?) and would help us all and save a lot of time!

Many thanks, for all your help with this project, Felipe (and everybody else that helped!)
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 29 Jul 2017 03:47 #6164

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Diki wrote:
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I have both Bk-9 and EA-7,

Felipe, ....could you try auditioning the other ethnic E-A7 styles in the BK-9 that we haven't already had posted here, and if they DO work OK in the BK-9, send them to me to put up in the Dropbox?

It will be a pleasure to contribute to this forum.
I'll start by downloading the Ethnic Styles already available here. ;)
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 29 Jul 2017 03:58 #6165

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Diki, to facilitate my work, you send me the same email, the same as I sent you the POP Folder Rhythms, the ethnic styles that you have to test on the BK-9 with its name on the Ea-7.
Then I just download it to the BK-9's thumb drive and then just listen to the screen saws side by side.
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 30 Jul 2017 18:37 #6167

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felipepaz wrote:
Diki, to facilitate my work, you send me the same email, the same as I sent you the POP Folder Rhythms, the ethnic styles that you have to test on the BK-9 with its name on the Ea-7.
Then I just download it to the BK-9's thumb drive and then just listen to the screen saws side by side.

I'm not quite sure I understand this...

I was commenting about ethnic styles we do NOT already have....
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 01 Aug 2017 08:30 #6172

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Dear felipepaz,

Do you have any data for Multipads apart from the factory ones (For E-A7)??

If so could you kindly share the data?
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 10 Aug 2017 20:55 #6186

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Diki wrote:
felipepaz wrote:
Diki, to facilitate my work, you send me the same email, the same as I sent you the POP Folder Rhythms, the ethnic styles that you have to test on the BK-9 with its name on the Ea-7.
Then I just download it to the BK-9's thumb drive and then just listen to the screen saws side by side.

I'm not quite sure I understand this...

I was commenting about ethnic styles we do NOT already have....

Opsss.... ok so !!! ;)

I'm a bit busy lately, but I'll prepare this test yes and if possible on video on youtube. On these days, in the off-hours, I am preparing a video commenting on the E-80 Vs Bk-9 Vs EA-7, a kind of comparative and trend of Roland in the last 10 years. Enjoying while I have the three keyboards. ;)
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 10 Aug 2017 21:00 #6187

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thambu10 wrote:
Dear felipepaz,

Do you have any data for Multipads apart from the factory ones (For E-A7)??

If so could you kindly share the data?

Unfortunately I have no loops for multpads. :dry:
But I intend to prepare something with tambourine, used in samba, and some strums of electric guitar. :)
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 20 Aug 2017 15:13 #6188

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Here is a link to the Styles section for 65 editted E-A7 styles for E-80.
They were editted on a Roland E-80 and should work also on G-70.

They should also be useful on E-60 and E-50 but there are some
restrictions due to the specifications of the E-60 and E-50.

roland-arranger.com/index.php/files/late...7-styles-for-e80-g70
Roland E-80 V2.03 + SRX-06 + SR-G01, FC-7, PK-5, SC-8820.
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 22 Aug 2017 15:49 #6190

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Willem52 wrote:
Here is a link to the Styles section for 65 editted E-A7 styles for E-80.
They were editted on a Roland E-80 and should work also on G-70.

They should also be useful on E-60 and E-50 but there are some
restrictions due to the specifications of the E-60 and E-50.

roland-arranger.com/index.php/files/late...7-styles-for-e80-g70

404 - Document Not Found :huh:
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 22 Aug 2017 16:28 #6191

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Well, I have set the archive file to registered: You need to login into the forum.
I have just tested the download again, it works splendidly...
Roland E-80 V2.03 + SRX-06 + SR-G01, FC-7, PK-5, SC-8820.
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 22 Aug 2017 18:40 #6192

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felipepaz wrote:
thambu10 wrote:
Dear felipepaz,

Do you have any data for Multipads apart from the factory ones (For E-A7)??

If so could you kindly share the data?

Unfortunately I have no loops for multpads. :dry:
But I intend to prepare something with tambourine, used in samba, and some strums of electric guitar. :)

I think I have posted repeatedly about the fact that basically, Roland include no content for either of these groundbreaking features, the sampler and the multi pads.

Roland also, at the moment, have no provision in the EA7 OS to be able to easily transfer chunks of styles or drum rhythms from one style into a multi pad. In fact AFAIK, the only way to get stuff into the multi pads is to hook a computer up to the EA-7 and record parts of the style, edit that, and re-import it to the EA-7! This is utterly ridiculous!

Compare Roland's MultiPad content with Korg's or Yamaha's and you can easily see why Roland languishes in sales. Honestly, what is the point of a feature with zero content? Or a feature with no import path for additional content?

Does anyone at Roland actually care?

It honestly does not appear so. ..
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Attn Fran and other E-A7 owners... 04 Nov 2017 14:41 #6411

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On the Roland Brazil site I came across a styles and drumkits package: Momento_sofrencia.
It contains five styles and a folder with sounds and drum kits (edited) with instructions.


File Attachment:

File Name: Momento_sofrencia-Instructions.pdf
File Size: 7 KB


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File Name: RolandBrazil-Momento_sofrencia.zip
File Size: 164 KB
Roland E-80 V2.03 + SRX-06 + SR-G01, FC-7, PK-5, SC-8820.
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